Seeking in guidance on possible new homes
has this, Hersh: "Horrible Things Done to Children of Women Prisoners"
, in reference to a piece on Seymour Hersh at Brad DeLong's Semi-Daily Journal (2004): a Weblog
, specifically Torture and Rumors of Torture
which has this item:
"'NATO's falling apart in Afghanistan now.'
And this was one of the most stunning parts. He had just returned from Europe, and he said high officials, even foreign ministers, who used to only talk to him off the record or give him backchannel messages, were speaking on the record that the next time the U.S. comes to them with intelligence, they'll simply have no reason to believe it.... He lamented of his journalistic colleagues, 'I don't know whey they don't just tell it like it is.'...
He said the people most horrified by the way the war was planned were the military commanders responsible for protecting their troops.... He talked about the horror of the 1000 civilian deaths in Fallujah (but was careful to note the Marines were doing their job, placing the blame with their superiors)....
He talked about how hard it is to get the truth out in Republican
Washington: 'If you agree with the neocons you're a genius. If you disagree you're a traitor.' Bush, he said, was closing ranks, purging anyone who wasn't 100% with him. Said Tenet has a child in bad health, has heart problems, and seemed to find him generally a decent guy under unimaginable pressure, and that people told him that Tenet feared a heart attack if he had to take one more grilling from Cheney. 'When these guys memoirs come out, it will shock all of us.'...
He said that after he broke Abu Ghraib people are coming out of the woodwork to tell him this stuff. He said he had seen all the Abu Ghraib pictures. He said, 'You haven't begun to see evil...' then trailed off. He said, 'horrible things done to children of women prisoners, as the cameras run.'
He looked frightened."
Now, I don't know. But torturing children in front of their mothers is NOT, I repeat NOT American. I've blogged on concerns of what this sort of thing does to the good discipline and morale
of the military. I wonder now, if in six months to a year, whether our soldiers will be greeted here at home as heros, or w/ an updated version of the late '60s and early '70s 'Baby Killers', such as 'Baby Torturer'. This has the potential to truly spiral out of control beyond what I can now imagine. In fact, I think our Commander-in-Thief may have done more to destroy US military than any foreign power ever could. Time will tell.
And, right now, I'm by no means ready to give up my citizenship, but if this is or becomes 'standard operating procedure' in our fight for...I seem to have forgotten what we are fighting for right now...Oh, that's right, Baby Bush went to the US Congress and the American people, and convinced us all, that we should send in troops to liberate Iraq, and cost to the US taxpayer be damned. That's how it happened right...
Well, anyway, if the American people find this acceptable [maybe it is the case of always having to go to a greater extreme to get the same high, and after watching The Passion
, the American people of a greater thirst for bloodshed?], I may have to leave the country. I for one do not want to be part of a country that popularly supports behavior reminiscent of the Viet Cong, NAZI's, Pol Pot, Maoists, etc. Sorry. That's how I feel. Disgusted. And Afraid. Disgusted, Afraid and Revolted. And scared that I might somehow wind up in the hands of these 'authorities'. I know, you don't have to worry. The authorities will never come you and yours. Me, I worry.
I also worry because the current situation looks to me like we've globalized the Palestinian-Israeli War. And, since we seem to really like to learn from losers
[Harsh you say? Well, the Israelis appear closer to losing control of their state then any time I remember, and they sure ain't winning], we will continue to use failed tactics in a futile war that appears w/o purpose, unless it is in fact a Crusade. And, if it's a crusade, let me say, I hope both sides lose. Christian theocracies are just as repressive as Muslim theocracies. I have no love for the idea of fighting over which version of myth is 'real'. And both the Christians and the Muslims have long histories of torture.
Hey, I know, maybe China is my kind of place? No. No. I'd wind up on their bad side too, but at least it would be based on myths, just political realities.
New Zealand, maybe?
Well, there's time. I give the people until November to decide what kind of country America is. I'm just not sure I will like the answer. [Note: I was going to try to link to a letter to the editor in today's AJC
, which had some women saying she would gladly pull the fingernails out of...Anyway, AJC
wants to much info. Screw 'em.]
You know, w/ global warming and all, I bet Antartica might be pretty nice. Maybe just go down and homestead?